some families are probably turning off pro sports right now, just because of this explosion of tats in the last 15 years.). Its America and both can do what they want in this country. Artwork on his neck, arms and any area that is exposed outside of normal clothing and the uniform should be cool. If he wants to cut all the players on the panthers with tattoos or piercings than he can tell Cam not to have any. The bottom line is the man is saying that right now I dont want you to leave this franchise and we will all benefit from it. The 6-foot-5, 230-pound Johnson was the preseason SEC player of the year in. In the wake of the Aaron Hernandez arrest, some eyebrows were raised at the news that authorities were scanning his vast array of tattoos for evidence of gang connections. (Peppers) And I think by all accounts hes a model citizen but thats just me. If Newton doesnt like it, get them and let Richardson trade him for it. Joel Embiid. owners of a business dont actively seek out 1 person, they set a standard that all applicants have to adhere to. I think we are seeing more and more owners stay out of the football side of things. As usual the folks here are writing an article about nothing to create page hits and controversy. I get it. The New York Yankees do the same thing with all of their players. You want no tats or piercings? These players represent their respective teams. And I it was a strong request, not a demand. Arent there baseball teams that dictate whether a player can grow a beard? employees do have rights. The difference is you can also go to another restaurant that allows tats and piercings. While my personal preference is in alignment with Richardson, I am not ok with the implication that it is a requirement. Anyone whos worked in the real world knows this isnt uncommon. And the CBA limits the teams rules in this regard to reasonable rules about appearance. While Im sure Richardson is an old-school guy who has low regard for any manner of body ornamentation, this isnt so much about Jerry imposing his own personal values on a player; its a matter of maintaining and maximizing Cams image and marketability, particularly as it relates to the corporate sector. Jerry owns the team and can ask his player (s) to have no tattoos. He is one of a few footballers without tattoos. Please explain how you managed to make this about race, I gotta see this. The only superstar duo without tattoos is Embiid and Simmonds. I absolutely HATE looking at those players with tattoos up and down their arms, gold teeth, big diamonds in both of their ear lobes and hair down to their a$$. As long as there continue to be other players on his team with tats or piercings, Newton can make a clear-cut case for discrimination if he is disciplined for getting either himself. I suppose the argument here though is he isolated Cam when others on the Panthers have tatts. Some employers even take it a step furtherMy partner is a firefighter, and she had to sign a morals clause as part of her employment contract with the city. When bosses complain about tattoos and such it is because they feel the tattoos are embarassing and they dont want to lose business. On the other hand Im a little disapointed in Cam. 27 world championships later, maybe they are onto something. I am 34, but todays generation has gone hog wild with this tattoo craze and it needs to stop, or at least slow down. This reminds me of the Yankees and their no facial hair except mustaches rule. Its a legitimate choice. NFL players show off 2022 'My Cause, My Cleats' footwear. Its his show. He has just as much right to put expectations on his employees as any other owner of any other company. Its outrageous and racist and pretty damn normal. Paramedics and school teachers who work long hours for peanuts, because they want to make a positive impact on other peoples lives. The Liverpool star has decided not to wear any tattoos. If a potential employee doesnt agree with itthat is fine. He owns the team and has done nothing wrong in stating that to him. Where in this sentence did Mr. Richardson say he couldnt have a tattoo or any piercings? tats are so common if he held the rest of the team to that rule he would have a lot of roster spots to fill . Let me simplify this one for the bloody-do-gooders and first amendment nuts. He certainly has a right to do whatever he wants. Even Cam Newton is winning football games, him being tatted up will have nothing to do with it. Hell, I took my mother-in-law to get her 1st tattoo for her 60th birthday. Athletes are NOT slaves, as much as some like to say. 1 draft pick, Jerry Richardson to Cam Newton: No tattoos, no piercings, Report: Derek Carr wants $35 million per year, The Raiders are the betting favorites to land Aaron Rodgers, Mike McCarthy: Kellen Moore wants to light the scoreboard up, I want to run the damn ball, ESPN reiterates report that Lamar Jackson wants a fully-guaranteed deal, Arrest warrant issued for Jalen Carter for reckless driving, racing, Aaron Rodgers says hell make a decision soon enough, Competition Committee begins to explore the quarterback push play, Players say Chiefs discourage them from reporting injuries, have NFLs worst training staff, Bryce Young is just over 5-10 and 204 pounds. Im not sure why NFL players should be any different. First of all, there is no race issue here. I know many companies you require that no tatoos or piercings be visible. I would, however, question the wisdom of trading him just because he doesnt have an unmarked body. Everybody has made good points in this discussion. I have to side with Richardson on this one. But to single Cam out specifically, esp since hes black, is tainted with the stench of blatant racism. You bring in the best people to help you win. i work for a guy that wanted to fire someone because they had an extra-marital affair with someone who wasnt affiliated with the job. He seems like an all around great guy. Personally, I hate tattoos. I have also placed him on the mythical collegiate, Mt. Only one of the the top two players in franchise history was inked up and down the arm. If Cam doesnt like it he can work somewhere else, right? Though the topic was addressed by Tom Sorensen of the Charlotte Observer in April, its worth repeating. Newton is a grown man, and he can do whatever he wants by way of decorating his body with ink or ice, or by growing his hair as long as he pleases. I dont have any. I said, Do you have any piercings? He said, No, sir. I find nothing as silly as when people try to compare playing in the NFL to a regular job. Now, if he gets all tatted and pierced up like Dennis Rodman, his options will be fewer. And if I got them, and suddenly was let go, can I really say my rights have been infringed upon? Probably because the Polish striker refuses to show off fancy stuff and refuses to compromise his body. WebHe was charged with RESISTING AN OFFICER WITHOUT VIOLENCE. yes its true, lots of companies have policy against visible tats while at work, and i can agree with that. if the owner is paying the face of a franchise millions and he does not want his franchise player haveing tatoos or pierceing that is cool to me.i worked as a waiter and i had to take my pierceings out and cover my tatoos when i was at work,because i was a represenitive of the restarunt.so if the owner of a million dollar company does not want you to have tats or pierceing than you should not have them. Its not about race or slavery or any of that other B.S. Wearing tattoos is prohibited in his religion so he is not allowed to wear any. I think Cam is smart enough to realize his marketing potential if his play lives up to the hype. I could go on with many more examples, but hopefully even your ignorant and mean- spirited brain can understand. The guys is paying him millions of dollars to be the face of his franchise. Yeah, because having 60-80 yr old white guys running things has worked out so well lately.we should also commend them for extending their personal believes onto younger generations, because change is bad. Most companies have an expectation that their leaders present themselves in a certain way. Hmmmmm, 3octaveFart says: I commend Richardson for saying what is on his mind and being upfront with Cam Newton. You think you can go into a big firm and score a high paying job while sporting tatoos and peircings? Im sure a bunch of guys of similar appearance felt it they just sounded reasonable when they fought to maintain slavery and to prevent womens basic rights (like owning property or voting) as well. Well give you the last word on this one. I wondered how I would have felt if one of my back surgeons showed up in his scrubs with arms full of tattoos and lips, nose, cheeks and ears pierced. Calf Football Tattoos 10. Giannis Antetokounmpo. In 2014, tattoos returned with "Madden NFL 15" for just one player: Colin Kaepernick. ************************************************** should rememberand how could they forgetthat Newton, as a union member, is covered by a collective bargaining agreement that sets out the conditions of his employment. if you read the question as stated, then the CLEAR answer should be NO. The man who was the first to hire a first ever owner to hire a black man as a HC, the first to ever hire a Hispanic as a HC and the first ever to hire a female executive? Nothing worse than going to the doctors office and my freaking nurse has a nose piercing. Employers generally dont want people with visible tats/excessive piercings interfacing with customersunfortunately some NFL players are pretty much always interfacing with customers because they are famous. He told him he cant have tatoos or piercings! Guy lost his mind, your paying him for his play, not to tell him what to wear.& way go Raiders!!! . I see your point and its a good one. No one can reasonably claim that a tattoo on a players butt affects his appearance. Every person (not just NFL player) should have the right to look, speak, and portray themselve the way they feel comfortable. Thanks for clearing that up, Jerry! Im not saying its right or wrong; thats just how it is. Its his team. WebMiami Sports. Why risk losing a commercial deal or something over a tatt. This is no different than someone going to work for a store that required a certain presentation.thats what the owner wants.his team.if Newton doesnt like it, he doesnt have to play! The Yankees have a long standing ban on facial hair and long hair, and thats been working all right for them over the years. It might be just me, but I care a lot more about how a player acts on and off the field than about how many body mods they have. Bicep Football Tattoos 3. The society is beginning to infiltrate the entertainment that is conducive to a family visit to the stadium. Instead they are becoming more involved in the Global Business that their team is and investing their personal time into the players, employees, and teams. Just as long as it isnt in the form of a threat or ultimatum. Lavezzi, as well as being one of the strongest Argentine strikers, is one of the most tattooed football players in the world. Super Bowl bound Beckham is said to have as many as 86 pieces of art on his body with all different meanings. Ill be posting some of the most interesting aspects of their discussion right here. Both of my sister-in-laws kids fathers (dont even get me started) have MULTIPLE face tattoos (they also dont have a GED or a diploma, or a job between them-again, dont get me started). I do understand that things can be taken to the extreme to the point of alienating people even though your behavior is perfect (its harder to relate to someone with multiple facial piercings and a grill than someone without those things)but overall I think its overkill to say no tats/piercings at all. I believe they both come from religious families. Lionel Messi or Kylian Mbappe? It wont happen if he has alot of tatoos or piercings. First I think we need to remember that the NFL is a JOB! Yet, he touts that player/owner title as if he is a players owner. Hes not. Yesterday, team management made a pitch to the South Florida media in hopes of convincing local governments to subsidize $250 million in. Claiming that our jobs mean nothing & that monkeys could do it. You know NOTHING about any of us.some are firefighters who run into a burning building to save lives & property. Many athletes get tattoos to honor those who have influenced their careers or to represent themselves positively through art. (Peppers) And I think by all accounts hes a model citizen but thats just me. I think theyre stupid looking, but thats just me. The main reason Mo Salah does not have tattoos is that he is a Muslim and tattoos are forbidden in Islam. Cam liked what he heard, Richardson liked what he saw and heard. Tattoos have become more prominent across the league (and in sports in general) in its more recent history, though not all football stars have made smart ink choices. I said, Do you have any tattoos? Richardson told Rose. Come to think of it, Ive seen far more whites with tattoos and piercings falling off their bodies than I have blacks. But you cant do EVERYTHING you want. 6 of 19 against the bengals. The hard-earned money comes in the way of corporate sponsorships and advertising dollars. Sure he could release him but he would still have to pay the guaranteed money in the contract and I am sure another team would be glad to pick him up. As a Panthers fan, this is one of the biggest non stories i have ever read on this site. Boy, a lot of people who werent there know for sure what was said and to whom it was said. Jerry Richardson wants it to be 1962 forever. Most other teams expect to win. Ya know, ol JR has been given a pass before when he berated a player in a meeting. Its not like this is new. You should be able to suggest to the face of your franchise that he should keep it toned down and not get to wild in public. WebSome famous people who have a tattoo include Michael Jordan, Paul Stanley (of WWE fame), Sylvester Stallone, and Marilyn Monroe. I didnt realize having tattoos and piercings was unreasonable. The NFL is trending dangerously close to the path the NBA took years ago and is now the NBA is trying to rebuild its image and fan base. Teams should let players know what they expect form their players, and if the players get tatoos then they should know that their owner frowns on it. I removed my piercings, because its frowned upon in my profession. Im perfectly OK with JR telling him how he should represent JRs franchise. Thankfully, the tattoos didn't stop 25-year-old Kaepernick from getting an NFL job. Or says something stupid. That could be construed to be a health and safety issue, particularly in a contact sport. I didnt know Jerry Richardson was a Michelle Bachmann backer, - There are 31 other that might want to employ me, so its your choice sir! He held up a photo of Steve Smith and said, Yeah, basically just dont be like this., Just take a look around the league If owners seriously considered only signing players who looked like choir boys they wouldnt even be able to field a team. Maybe their owner should focus more on the talent of the product on the field instead of what they look like. There is nothing wrong with the owner telling Cam his preferences with tatoos. There are laws against being singled out like that. No. In this country we have the freedom to make bad decisions. Yeah, I think owners have every right to decide whats important to them in building their brand, including whether their most marketable player has tattoos. Guess again. Thigh Football Tattoos 11. Apparently, Richardson is willing to tolerate those things when it comes to men who wont become the face of the franchise. But I would think, that if I am him, there will be another contract and I would not want to make the owner mad by defying him. It is up to them, however, I have higher opinions of players who choose not to get tattoos or piercings. People somehow think it is their constitutional right to take a job somewhere and look and do whatever they want because of freewill.incorrect. It is completely up to the owner how his team looks, just as it is in any business. As an owner of a business, I can dictate how I want my business to be presented to the buying public. Are you guys Fn kidding me? But Richardson isnt Newtons father. Cam can choose to bag groceries instead of get paid 30 mil to play a game. Im not arguing the merit of the request with this post, but I do think youre off base if youre throwing out the companies have policies line here. At least hopefully Cam will show better judgement than Pryor and avoid getting any tattoos on his throwing arm in the 24 hours leading up to a game, that habit really hurt Pryors consistency. I dont see what the big deal is. So, Richardson is right and I would be the same way, if it were my business. I think Cam wants to be the next commercial superstar. ive had many coworkers that have to rock the long sleeves at work to cover up the tats, and theyre cool with that. It is a joke people support such dumb rules to be enforced on someone. If Jerry Richardson is a racist, how come he drafted Newton to be the face of the franchise? It would be one thing if he had a hardline policy where he refused to draft any players who had tatts or piercings. I made that point in another post. The winner has been LEAKED, Cristiano Ronaldo scores STUNNING first-half hat trick for Al Nassr as he totals 2 HAT-TRICKS IN 3 GAMES. A perfect example is Robert Kraft and his relationships with his team. Not a member? This is the NFL. Take Donald Driver for examplehe wears two big earrings and it looks like (from a quick google image search) he has some tattoos on his arms. Hes difficult, and in all liklihood the reason he doesnt want newton to have tattoos is because of a misconcdption about whether Newton can be successfully marketed while simultaneously being tatted and black. WebDerek, or Derek Arthur Paggao-Ramsay, was born in Enfield, England on December 7, 1976 to British father Derek Ramsay Sr. See Derek Ramsay full list of movies and tv shows from their career. 1. Of course, if Richardson keeps writing checks like he has these past few months, Im sure those offended players could get over it. Barcelona legend Andreas Iniesta refused to wear tattoos during his footballing career and is one of the few footballers without tattoos. In the time it took me to post this he prolly sold 10,000 chicken biscuits. Well, the guy got ticked off and blew the interview. He is the prototypical new wave QB, in my opinion. You guys side with the people in power on everything. Get a grip people. Tattoosshmeh not so much. Most employers have some sort of dress code employees must stick to-even our military when it comes to tattoos and piercings. To play for the organization, you complied with the rule. Its sad that so many companies feel the need to suppress individualism all in the name of capitalism. I am the biggest Panthers fan and Cam Newtons most staunch supporter(and he needs it in Charlotte), since his first game against Clemson last year. As we can see, Fitzgerald has no tattoos, which is kind of rare in the NFL. . Thats your right. - Then again, most of these comments that hate on people with tattoos really sound like Abe Simpson. To: BIGTROUBLEhow dare you judge people here in such a manner? im not a supporter of owner meddling in his employees personal time. He is one of the few footballers without tattoos as it prohibited in his religion Islam. So I guess hed pass on Tom Brady because his hair is too long? Sleeve Football Tattoos 5. this, however, is taking it a step further by dictating how cam can look when hes not at work. LeBron is covered in ink and he seems like an all around decent person (The Decision aside). Please explain to me why it would be so crazy for ownership to enforce something like this. You meant isnt in the last sentence, phaktor. but when its their time (ie: off the clock), they let the arms show. Your poll question says telling players which is a problem. You can agree or disagree with Richardson. After all, this is a business, would you go to McDonalds if Ronald had 15 piercings all around his mouth and nose? And I dont want you hanging around that no-good tyrone or that shank shaquanda!. There are trade offs. Probably not, but has anybody noticed their piercings or tats? . Richardson is entitled to cut him, if he likes, but that would be contrary to his interests, if Newton is as good as Richardson thinks. Whether he wanted to get a tattoo or not he should have stood his ground and said respectfully sir, I dont have any tattoos or piercings, but I alone will decide if I do or I dont. This is pretty standard. Where is Allen Iverson when you need him?. Bottom line is Hes there to win games and win fans which equals more money for the franchise. A man child would go get tatoos despite what the guy said. If he is quoted correctly there was no ultimatim, so there should be no issue. McDonalds can tell me pretty much the same thing. 10 best NBA players who dont have tattoos. Man I usually HATE when the race card is played but this sure walks a fine line. It is really a little on the stupid side. Whether he wanted to get a tattoo or not he should have stood his ground and said respectfully sir, I dont have any tattoos or piercings, but I alone will decide if I do or I dont. If your view is so clouded and cant see thru it, I have no need for your job or your friendship. The players in the 2013 NFL Draft Class have no shortage of impressive tattoos. However, Richardson definitely has control issues, so Newton would be smart not to make this an issue. NOW that is FUNNY. So what if hes old school. Its his team so he can do so. Not a big deal though, most employers want employees to look professional. Gareth Bale, however, admits to giving his dad a shock by once wearing magnetic earrings for a family dinner back home in Cardiff. To all the posters that have said some variaton of if he doesnt like it, work somewhere else or I own a business and my employees do as they are told the guy was drafted. However, here are the rules that I want you to play with. The Jaguars have had a resurgent season and one of the best defenses in the NFL. Cowboys rookie receiver Ryan Switzer wasn't allowed to get a tattoo, so he covertly got one done on the inside of his lower lip. Thread starter dolfan313; S Missing ur point. Thats just the way it is. Where is Allen Iverson when you need him? Company policy should apply here as well, in my opinion. Operation Sports Forums > Football > Madden NFL Football > Madden Will work with any roster or draft class but doesn't have tattoos for any player without face scan. Regardless of the motivation, theres something troubling about Richardsons position. Its none of his business. Just ask your grandparents. Jerry Richardson has every right to ask that a player not have tats or piercings. That being saiduntil the NFL states itI dont think the individual owners have the right as they are just pieces of the whole organization. Manchester Uniteds star midfielder, Paul Pogba refuses to wear any tattoos on his body. Its his team so he can do so. ============================== Cam was hired. I have no visible tats and no piercingsbecause its BAD FOR BUSINESS!!! That being said, most businesses have dress codes for their employees. If my memory serves me correctly Jerry was a big supporter of the rooney rule. Next in the list is the Egyptian King known as Mo Salah. If youre more concerned with your QBs looks than his dedication and hard-work, than that explains why you havent drafted a good one in as long as I can remember. That said, I like what Richardson has said and agree with his right to say it. No. Dwight Howard 6. The league doesnt have to work too hard pitching its product to the fans; they sell themselves on it. Call it what you want. If Cam really wants a tat that badresign from the team. updated March 23, 2022, 7:35 am Its one thing to ask fans to spend a thousand bucks on season tickets; its another thing entirely to convince a corporation to spend a quarter-million dollars on a luxury box for one season, or millions of dollars for high-profile advertising space. Cam Newton doesn't have any tattoos on his body, and his ears are unpierced. WebWe assumed 100 players (entries) for this tournament. Im in professional services. I think the owner has the right but I dont see how it helps your team win games. you ppl mean nothing, could find a monkey to do your job. Richardson, a former teammate of Johnny Unitas with the Baltimore Colts and the first ex-NFL player since George Halas to own a team, was awarded the Panthers franchise in 1993. Tattoos are the new mainstream. Patriots kicker says he will remove tattoo associated with far-right militia group. The main reason Ronaldo does not have tattoos is that he donates blood regularly. Oh my God! They wanted that more than they wanted to stand on principle, piss off Richardson, and take the risk of dropping in the draft. People are giving examples of how things are in the workplace for non-professional athletesbecause (some of) these athletes are often out of touch with the reality of their fans lives. He doesnt seem to have any issues with the request so Im not sure its even a problem. It is an employee relationship he seeks to re-establish, and the employees should look presentable to the public. Believe it or not hes no dummy. But anyway, he is a classy player but we wouldnt be surprised to see him in a tattoo shop. Nothing wrong with JR stating his preferences to kid that hes going to draft and pay to be the face of his franchise. If Cam is a decent guy who wants to be a franchise QB hed probably just not get tatoos and piercings anyways. Pittsburgh, New England and New York are thought to have the best onwership and those rules dont exist. WebIts inevitable to come across some flashy tattoos in a locker room full of NFL athletes. I dont really like JR but it doesnt sound like he told Newton he isnt allowed to get tattoos or piercings, he was just letting him know he would prefer he doesnt. As it turns out, its standard practice when potentially putting inmates with rival gang ties in the same jail space. Register now! Cam is just a kid and JR was just trying to set the stage for the owner-player relationship. Big Cat Richardson said he was aggressive in FREE AGENCY- Ha, signed NO ONE NEW-ran off Julius Peppers whom Chicago loves and traded for Gregg Olson which is not a free agency signing To dictate what a person can do is ok if you dont sell and make your HUGE PROFITS from Grease filled Bonjangles doublely fried chicken & Hardees Big Fat burgers which is cloggin up arteries in the south causing heart attacks & OBEeSITY- And he basically didnt get crap for his hardass stand in the CBA Cam Newton must be thinkin your players suck and no wonder this team sucks- he is smoke and mirrors- what he gonna say when they go 1-15?
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