I do not know if it is because of the double stamping that has occurred with these marks or some other factor, but there is no letter P inside of this mark on the above pistol. Langenhan Zella-Mehlis, Germany No. The serial number is C23709. moscs 2 i -4. , s. t r.rir, IIMlllMlllllllllllllllltlllltlllllllltllllllllllllllllllllllllllMllllllllltlllllllllllilMllilllil J11111I' If If I ft 11 llllt tl ll I (|! They also made it with El Soldado stamped on the slide, meaning the Soldier. During WWII a company named Geco, Gustav Genschow & Co, imported guns from Spain to be sold to Nazi party members and marked their guns with the Geco logo which is a large G with the eco inside it. Colt 45 mags work and this one was equipped with a Meggar, Max I C/F - .45 cal compact frame 4 .340" barrel, parkerized, blue or tutone satin chrome frame and blue slide, Max II L/F large frame large capacity, parkerized, blue or tutone satin chrome frame and blue slide, MaxII C/F compact frame large capacity, parkerized ,blue or tutone satin chrome frame and blue slide. VII.-This pistol in 9 mm. Llama Model II - .380mm Production started in 1933 and lasted thru 1954. Post War serial numbers are all offset. The front and rear sight are custom Novak and not original to the gun. X.-This pistol, in 7.65 mm. This is a full size gun with a double stack 10 round magazine magazine to comply with California law. Elgoibar, Spain No. This pistol is still in production. Short, second blowback pattern and more closely approached the external shape of the Mod. The LF which stands for long frame came in a variety of finishes, but never Stainless Steel as may be claimed. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Mod. It is the height of the raised portion on the XA below. Llama means Flame in Spanish, but they used the animal as their logo as well. X. Mod. It was also made under the name Tauler from 1933 to 1936. So the stamp is as follows, the letter 'D' then an. On the LEFT side of LLAMA firearms, right above the tirgger, is Again, speculation. Automatic pistols made by Gabilondo from 1914 to 1933 were based on Browning F.N. I have a.22, a.32 (both post war) and the.380 which dates to 1942-1943. Larry Well Larry, Thanks so much for the help! An interesting note is that Spain took longer to establish national proofing laws and standards for firearms then some of the other important firearms producing nations, notably Austria, Belgium, France, Germany and Great Britain. Apparently derived from the 1900 Model Mannlicher. If so desired, you can also manually cock the hammer for the first shot, to improve accuracy. This pistol was developed by Llama in 1986 and was adopted by the Spanish military in 1988. Mod. Second Variant Humpback The second variant has the serial number on the left arm of the slide, near the front. Mod. . i , No. d'Armes de Guerre de Haute Prcision Lige, Belgium No. Hello, sign in . 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 45680 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 46306 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 46883 Model II - 380 ACP - 1943 - 70989 Model I - 32 ACP - 1943 - 72994 (German GECO marked) Model II - 380 ACP - 1944 - 78290 Model I - 32 ACP - 1944 - 84482 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1944 - 89123 Model IIIA - 380 ACP - (don't have year handy) - 739813. These black serial number plates were used in the early Generation 2 Glock 19 pistols in the same serial number ranges as their Generation 1 Glock 17 siblings. The list price of the Omni 9mm in the 1983 Gun Digest was $599.99, at a time when the S&W Model 59 listed for only $371.50. I have never seen any information on this pistol and it was quite a surprise. The markings in the picture on the left are as follows,GABILONDO Y CIA. DURAGRIPS - Llama IIIA XA XV III Micromax .22 .32 .380 Tactical Grips - Checker. III and is merely a smaller version of that model (Fig. Mod. It dates from about 1935 and is believed to have replaced the first two models in distribution and to have been dropped from production in 1954. The demand of new LLAMA 32ACP pistol's has risen 1 units over the past 12 months. Pistols collected after the Spanish Civil War were either scrapped or refinished and I suspect the date codes and proofs were ground off. The pre-war serial # on the butt reads with barrel to the right including I frame serial numbers on the fore strap. Here we can see that the magazine floorplate along with the bottomof the backstrap of the pistol has been stamped with 'MADE IN SPAIN'. On that pistol it will probably be a letter followed by a number, with an * between. 323 7.65 mm. LLama 38 special Description: Nice Llama 38 special, very similar to the Smith and Wesson 29-2 44 magnum revolver's, this gun has a little holster ware but retains about 90% of it's dark polished bluing, has a 4' vented barrel with good rifling, smooth trigger pull, locks up nice, nice grips. That being the case, I would think it very rare as it is the first I have seen. It did not come with a box so I have no idea how it was classified when it originally sold. It was an imitation of Colt Mod. The "M1" stamp on the frame leads us to believe that the pistol was manufactured in 1967. Owners of these rifles should contact Daisy at 1-800-354-8841 for information on returning their gun (s). Omni I .45 cal - Omni II single stack mag 9mm 7 round - Omni III double stack mag 9mm 13 round mag. t 11 l?T it:t*tttl t ftfluc^ f I iff 1 ff fl cTTt v > 1, No. 2.5 2.5 out of 5 stars (6) $47.99 $ 47. 37' Metallwaren, Waffen u. Munitionsfabrik Budapest, Hungary No. IX.-First described as a recoil-operated style of the Mod. VII (or IV) style are known to have been made in the 7.63 Mauser caliber, expressly for the German trade, and it is possible that the designation of Mod. Llama IXA was produced as a replacement for the IX .45cal - large base mag. The winning bid was over $900. Llama Llama means Flame in Spanish, but they used the animal as their logo as well. At the Command Prompt, type the following command and then press Enter: wmic bios get serialnumber. Three vent first series starting in 1955and being made thru 1969. The frame and slide of the M82 are made from steel, so the gun is relatively heavy, but strong. Serial number has been in two different places also. Any Llama lover needs to have 1 in their collection, IMO. This pistol is still made. Largo/.38 ACP is identical to Mod. This gun is also a model V made in 9mm P. This gun was made in 1945 and is shown with different grips. Llama XVII- .22 calcalled the Executive. I have come to the conclusion that my pistol is a X-A and not a X. I have read that the Model X-A had a grip safety added when production of this model began in 1954. It is a wonderful gun that is totally reliable and very accurate. So that should put it in the 1936-1954 catagory. Just trying to help!! i i ' . Largo (Bergmann) and .38 ACP calibers. Then in the 1980's the firm introduced a new line of pistols that were more modern in both design and function. Llama Mod. Starting at the left and reading towards the right, the first symbol is a tad hard to make out in the photograph but it is a knights helmet and shield with the X inside. Largo (Bergmann) caliber. This was the first of the Llama pistols made and for some reason was later given the designation of model IV. Llama XVIII - .25 cal called the Executive. This was prior to the 68 GCA so no import marks were required along with the fact that Interarms was a CIA operation. Industry Announcements and Press Releases, Questions and Suggestions about M1911.ORG sites, Your Opinion about M1911.ORG and its sites, More than one of the above (questions pertaining to more than one brands), US Military Issue M1911 and M1911A1 Pistols, Commercial Colt Government Model, Ace, SM Ace, Super .38 and Commander pistols. 329 7.65 mm. 331 7.65 mm. |I|'|II JI|i|IH|'ll|'l'ji PPI'I'PI'I Jl|'|ll'|'l'l'l'ji|l|l I I|' ' . Ameba Ownd - . Llama Both are identical to the Llama Mod. They were of high quality and have been sold around the world. Finally closing their doors in 2005 because the stock holders did not want to put in more money. Mod. 1111 riii?li(i tiiYTti it, No. 529. IV. $ 399.00 For sale is a Llama Especial semi-automatic pistol in .380 ACP. 29681, No. 67,567. 14624. US&S's serial number range was 1041405 to 1096404, with my grandfather's numbered 10622xx (I'm . Search the Handgun Database X Use this form to search our database for handgun specifications, information and market values. Jger Pistole Jger and Co. Suhl, Germany No. This gun had a change in the way the safety was made to the same look as the later model I above had. The serial number is 563842 which I *think* puts production somewhere around 1970-ish. My wife has no sentimental attachment to it so we'd like to possibly sell or trade. The slide is marked "Llama Cal 45" on one side and "Gabilondo CIA VITORIA (Espana)" on the other. We find a lot of Llamas from the 30's that have their proof marks removed and I feel like this was done in the refinishing. Blow back operated, 5 shot mag,2 3/8" barrel, 4 3/4" overall length, 13 3/4oz. Hungarian 'Pistole Mod. I.-This was a 7.65 mm. By searching for the rifle serial number (search box ' Rifle Serial Number ' above) By using the SwissWaffen.com all rifle serial number list page or the all rifle serial number PDF. IV and is, therefore, the original Llama pistol, manufacture of which dates from 1932. It was a well made gun with fair tolerances, so parts were interchangeable within its own brand. Mod. All further shots will be fired in single action mode. I except for magazine capacity. Jul 7, 2015. an Alpha-Numeric Code. Locked Breech as you can see in the photo below, 161mm overall length, 94mm barrel and 8 round magazine. It is not aBeretta 92 but a Llama design. I have found a gun labeled as a Model I-A on the box, but I can assure you there is no such model and the box is a mis-print. Shipping Notes: On Star Pistols, the date code is usually under the left grip panel on the grip frame. Llama 32 Serial Number Lookup The photograph on the left is a picture of the right side of the receiver just above the trigger. models of 1903, 1906, 1910, and 1922. Now under the left grip I found an F followed the numbers 234 which also happens to be stamped on the barrel trigger and back strap. p | II 111 ' I . Find your rifle using one of the three follwing methods: Using the SwissWaffen.com rifle overview picture gallery. 1911A1, but without the grip safety, and in 9 mm. Llama model IV - 9mm largo - 38 acp. Website by Hudson. Llama Extra with factory target sights. After going Above the serial number it says "STOEGER INDUSTRIES" Llama Model 1, Walther P38, Llama 38.. VII, but in three calibers: 7.65 mm. This dates from about 1935 and was produced until about 1954. 1911. It has been suggested that the name Modello IV may have been reserved for the Tauler pistol which is identical to it. through the alphabet once, they started with "A*1," then "B*1" Mini Max - 9mm, .40 cal, .45 cal. A Note About Vintage Guns. My understanding is that at this time Gabilondo had 5 employees. VII (or IV) style are known to have been made in the 7.63 Mauser caliber, expressly for the German trade, and it is possible that the designation of Mod. 332 7.65 mm. In 1931 it was decided to modernize their line by undertaking the manufacture of the external hammer, recoil-operated system originally designed by Browning and used by Colt and the Fabrique Nationale. ' ' ' ' ' ' '' ' ', No. This was the most original and sophisticated Llama ever designed, incorporating such unique features as ball bearings for the hammer pivot, separate draw bars for the single and double action sears, a deeply undercut trigger guard to allow high hand positioning for recoil control, and "buttressed" rifling, which used a 2-stage "step-down" from the lands to the grooves, for less bullet deformation and a better gas seal Most of these features have never been found all together in any other single design, and provide this pistol with an extremely smooth and reliable action. *f j : 11: t i : ' : ' i?. A further improvement of the blowback pattern was undertaken and this second blowback style was issued from 1935 on. After reading some of the identification posts and finding "XVII" on the barrel, I "assume" it was manufactured in 1961. This next series of photographs show the stampings that are on the slide of this pistol. In 1931 it was decided to modernize their line by undertaking the manufacture of the external hammer, recoil-operated system originally designed by Browning and used by Colt and the Fabrique . Parabellum, 9 mm. Archivo Municipal de Eibar records show that Iraola Salaverria y Cia only produced 10,000 guns total and Hijos de Angel Echeverria y Cia produced 154,000. Search Amazon. However, many police departments do not offer this service. My wife has a Llama .380 she inherited from her step-father. The gun shown is a 1952. Personally, I am pleased with the Max series from Llama. Unless one of the Llamas has this mark or you have the bring back papers you cannot tell for sure if it was used in Germany during the war or not. Blow back operated, 5 shot mag,2 3/8" barrel, 4 3/4" overall length, 13 3/4oz. iflilimtT' ' f ^ I I I I< j 1:' I 1I'' 'J IM''. IX.-First described as a recoil-operated style of the Mod. caliber, was issued along with Mod. If springs in the.32 and.380 problems as well? A Model X-1 has been noted, but details are unknown. X, with the addition of a grip safety, which was added immediately following World War II. until they exhausted the alphabet, then they started with "A*2" and All of the guns supplied were blue, 9 shot with checkered wood grips and accompanied by three magazines along with a holster supplied by the French. II.-This 9 mm. If you still have trouble finding results for Llama Serial Number after simplifying your search term then we strongly suggest using the alternative sites (linked above . It was manufactured from about 1936 to 1954. You can narrow your search by manufacturer, handgun type, trigger type and caliber, and you can also filter results within a selectable range by overall length, barrel length or weight. Serial number- 399902. To this weapon was given the trade name Llama" which is the name for currently made Gabilondo pistols. Llama XA 7.65 blow back, manufactured in 1951 thru 54 in this configuration with the angled corner on the back of the frame and the magazine up inside the frame. This book contains well over 50 pages of detailed information and illustrations all about the art of knife throwing. Answer (1 of 37): Without law enforcement being involved you really cannot trace a firearm in the United States.