In court testimony and in an earlier interview, Ms. Santillan said she had shared the video and the text with the Mongols in an attempt to destroy her husband but had since regretted it; she said she was not being truthful when she claimed he had been an informant. After this mistake I realized I went against everything i believed in regarding both sides of the story and said enough of this drama bullshit . agent over the years because it helped avert trouble. New features, smoother menu and backgrounds- PLUS!! The judge will most likely consider a series of procedural matters on Monday, lawyers said, with additional hearings expected before any final ruling. In the case that led to the racketeering conviction against the Mongols, Mr. Ciccone had acted as the case agent. During the almost 13 years he led the Mongols, Mr. Santillan appeared to steer the organization away from its past recruitment of Mexican criminal gang members and a culture of total underworld activity that the feds feasted on, in terms of prosecutions, said William Dulaney, an expert on motorcycle groups who was formerly an associate professor of national security at the U.S. Air Forces Air Command and Staff College. Jesse gave other Mongols more of the same. So, she sent the recording along with a text message to two other members of the Mongols Motorcycle Club. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. There is no way hes gotten away with these incidents without more significant legal repercussions unless someone in law enforcement is in the background greasing the slides for him, Mr. Yanny said. Federal prosecutors have been focusing on the Mongols logo since 2008. "This was a lifestyle, a culture, and a way of life. In another instance, in 2014, Mr. Santillan and his wife got into a brawl with other people at a racetrack, the Mongols filing says. The current president of the Mongols Motorcycle Club is David Santillan, a man who claims that the organization has changed its code of conduct to exclude drug abusers and criminals. Want to know whats wrong with the scene and why people are not joining clubs anymore? But the group that was once the most powerful biker organization in the West other than its archrivals, the Hells Angels, is returning to court next week, hoping to set aside the racketeering and conspiracy convictions based on what it says is new evidence about its previous leader, David Santillan. Former Mongols Biker Club Leader Denies He Was Ever a Rat The Mongols Motorcycle Club allege that their former president David Santillan was a confidential informant during their RICO. Desperate ideas explained, Memphis Police Department officers were impeding care of Tyre Nichols, EMT says | CNN, Marine Corps eliminating its elite scout sniper platoons. Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader LIL DAVE Was an Informant For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. David Santillan, the president of the Mongols, was ousted by the group after a video surfaced that implied he was being protected by a federal agent. agent who infiltrated three biker clubs. It wasnt the entire Mongols Nation that threw him under the bus but a few that fed creators who thought these people were representing the clubs voice. "I assumed it was going to be her, so we videotaped," Annie Santillan tells Eyewitness News. Now its at a point where guns, instead of fist are used to settle things. On Wednesday, defense attorney Joe Yanny and Santillan went back and forth over Santillan's relationship with retired Montebello police officer Christopher Cervantes and Ciccone. In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. He cant protect me, he told me, so we have to have an exit strategy, he told me, an apparently agitated Mr. Santillan said to her. Mr. Santillan walking into a federal courthouse in Santa Ana, Calif., during the 2018 racketeering trial against the Mongols. The Mongols are relying on an explosive video shared by Mr. Santillans wife, Annie Santillan, who, during a stretch when she was angry with her husband over his infidelity, had her daughter record a conversation in which he appeared to refer to protection he had received from the A.T.F. One of the clubs defense lawyers during the original trial, Stephen Stubbs, testified that Mr. Santillan had told him during the trial that he was regularly meeting with Mr. Ciccone as the proceedings were going on, even as he was overseeing the clubs defense team. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. The A.T.F. The government, in its own appeal, is making another run at the Mongols logo, renewing an earlier request for a narrower forfeiture order that would take away the clubs right to trademark exclusivity over the emblem. On the stand, Mr. Santillan called the claims about his daily meetings with Mr. Ciccone an absolute lie. (He acknowledged encountering Mr. Ciccone by chance at a Starbucks near the courthouse once during the trial.). Everyone has their opinion of went down and how everything was covered. In other words, she wrote, he is a rat.. David Santillan was the president of the Mongols motorcycle club for nearly 13 years, until he was voted out of the club in July of 2021. ", "So, he gave me a heads up and that was it. But then he began to talk about now-retired ATF agent John Ciccone, the lead agent on the racketeering case. The Mongols claimed that Mr. Santillan had an inappropriate working relationship with an A.T.F. The U.S. Attorney's office asked him whether he is - or ever was - any sort of informant for the ATF or for any state or federal agency. Such an order would allow anyone to use the image. Ethan Tate, Meghann M. Cuniff and Lauren Herstik contributed reporting. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business.https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/us/mongols-new-trial.html00:00 Overview of the New York Times Article01:40 I know I said I wouldn't cover this anymore \"BUT\"03:56 Mongols MC Say LIL DAVE was an informant05:44 What the Mongols Rico Case was about07:30 Where's the paperwork09:26 The explosive video11:50 How long was lil dave a member of the mongols13:47 Why wasn't it done all the time15:47 WOW he can't do this17:14 Usually he had other members with him19:10 The new policies21:44 The leaked strategy#Harley#HarleyDavidson#Biker#Protocol#MotorcycleClub#MC#Tradition#MotorcycleRally#Motorcycles#bikers#outlawmotorcycleclubs#bikerlife Eyewitness News has obtained the video that was recorded in June of 2021 when David Santillan was drunk and despondent. He is a rat, Mr. Santillans wife, Annie, suggested in a text message that became a key piece of evidence in the case against the group, which was founded in Southern California in 1969 and whose members are mostly Hispanic. Now it's at a point where guns, instead of fist are used to settle things. Judge Carter also pressed Annie Santillan on why she specifically called her husband a confidential informant and "a rat" if she was just trying to hurt him. And he was tireless, Mr. DAlesio said. Mr. Santillan said he talked with the A.T.F. There could be a particular concern that the defense lawyer was unwittingly receiving directions from someone aligned with the government, he said. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. Thats what I meant by protect in the video.. Available on GOOGLE PLAY CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD FROM GOOGLE PLAY STORE. All rights reserved. A jury sided with the prosecution in 2019 and ordered the group to give up the emblem, but Judge David O. Carter rejected the verdict as an infringement on the clubs constitutional rights. He also denied that he ever helped Mr. Santillan win lenient treatment in his brushes with the law, which included a crash in his Mercedes five years ago while driving impaired. Both Mr. Santillan, a Mongols member for almost 25 years who was voted out of the club in July, and the agent, John Ciccone, who retired in December after 32 years at the A.T.F., deny that Mr. Santillan was acting as an informant during the trial, though Mr. Ciccones sworn declaration does not address whether Mr. Santillan had acted as a confidential informant in the past. Topics Selection,Research, Editing, Correction Policy andEthics, Hells Angel pleaded guilty to conspiracy to distribute and possess with intent to distributeheroin, Rumble in the woods motorcycle rally 2021 Biking &Brotherhood, THE PAGANS MC MADE THEM LOOK FOOLISH **FULL AUDIOEPISODE**, THE PAGANS MC MADE THEM LOOK FOOLISH**VIDEO**, Ep 937 HERES THE TRUTH UNCLE SHAGGY & THE INVADERS MC **FULLAUDIO**, HARLEY DAVIDSONS FROM 90s ARE BETTER THAN MODERNHARLEYS, HERES THE TRUTH ABOUT UNCLE SHAGGY & THE INVADERSMC, Final Statement on LIL DAVE and The Mongols MC situation, HERE'S THE TRUTH ABOUT UNCLE SHAGGY & THE INVADERS MC, https://insanethrottleinternational.files.wordpress.com/2021/01/discord-commercial-harley.mp3, https://insanethrottleinternational.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/motorcyclemadhousemayhempromo.mp3. Thats what I meant by protect in the video.. Lil Dave, the president of the Mongols motorcycle club, was caught cheating on his wife so she decided to revenge his ass by putting this video on Youtube which shows him supposedly. I've heard rumours he's also not actually mongolian. The only thing he is guilty of is talking to John a lot and having some kind of rapport with him, she said in an interview. Federal prosecutors have been focusing on the Mongols logo since 2008. The unusual legal imbroglio provides a rare glimpse into the hidden and volatile politics of the outlaw motorcycle club and the degree to which law enforcement and its targets may engage in limited cooperation when it is seen as mutually beneficial. READ ALSO | Was head of OC biker gang a 'rat'? "The relationship was just cordial, respectful relationship just to keep the peace between us and the club," Santillan said. But the group that was once the most powerful biker organization in the West other than its archrivals, the Hells Angels, is returning to court next week, hoping to set aside the racketeering and conspiracy convictions based on what it says is new evidence about its previous leader, David Santillan. The California motorcycle group had claimed that its former president, David Santillan, was a government informant. Mr. Santillan said it was ridiculous to think that Mr. Ciccone smoothed things over for him. ", RELATED: Mongols Motorcycle Club vows to fight trademark loss. A jury sided with the prosecution in 2019 and ordered the group to give up the emblem, but Judge David O. Carter rejected the verdict as an infringement on the clubs constitutional rights. ", LA County sheriff's recruits graduate months after Whittier crash, Highways into the San Bernardino Mountains are closed to drivers, LA County passes motion requiring retrofit of some buildings by 2033. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. It is the First Amendment issues associated with the case that are most important, Judge Carter said on Thursday, and whether the government has the right to seize control of a trademarked emblem as a way of eliminating a groups ability to operate and recruit. A petition for a new trial and reversal of the half-million-dollar fine, which is scheduled for an initial hearing on Monday in the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., claims that Mr. Santillan, 52, covertly cooperated for years with a special agent from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. He was ready, he said, to get treatment for his drug and alcohol addictions. The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. Discussion in 'Mayberry Lounge' started by Pliny Pete, Jul 18, 2021. After testifying briefly in court Monday, Annie told Eyewitness News that her husband has never been a confidential informant and that she only sent the text message because she wanted to destroy him in the eyes of the Mongols. John looked out not just for me but the club, Mr. Santillan said. John looked out not just for me but the club, Mr. Santillan said. Chunks of flesh and trails of blood were flying everywhere as he took full swings at attacker after attacker. and other law enforcement agencies have long gone after biker organizations by co-opting members as informants and infiltrating the groups with their own undercover agents. He was the guy outside all the time providing cover support in case something went wrong with the undercovers.. Mr. Santillan has acknowledged that he talked often with Mr. Ciccone for a period of years, usually in the presence of other Mongols members. One thing is for certain, you dont ever let people know your club affiliation over the internet. Eyewitness News asked Santillan what he meant in the video about ATF agent Ciccone "protecting him." A jury ordered the forfeiture, but Judge Carter reversed the order, concluding that it infringed on the groups constitutional rights. 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If youre a rat, youre the scum of the earth, he said in an interview. In the call, David Santillan sobs and says he wants to reconcile. Mongols National president lil Dave SNITCHES on own club, says "I have 1 year to plan exit strategy" @bimmerracer2010 Subscribe 774 Dislike 375 Share Would You Fly To Paris For A Baguette?. #MONGOLSMC #MONGOLS #LILDAVEFor more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery.In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. Its a new age now, TIk Toc, FB,IG they are all doing it and worse of all creators on YouTube. He's accused of being a confidential informant and working with the government during the Mongols' trial after his wife, Annie, shared a June 2021 recorded phone conversation with other members of the biker gang calling him a rat. agent on the case, John Ciccone, sharing inside information about the club in exchange for lighter penalties for various offenses. A petition for a new trial and reversal of the half-million-dollar fine, which is scheduled for an initial hearing on Monday in the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., claims that Mr. Santillan, 52, covertly cooperated for years with a special agent from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Mongols MC President Lil Dave THE REAL AMERICAN CHOLO. You can now listen to full episodes of the podcast right from the app. Both Mr. Ciccone and the U.S. Attorneys Office declined to comment on the motion beyond the government response filed in court, which said the petition for a new trial was replete with false and unsupported allegations and speculation.. On Thursday last week, The Suit was downtown at a pre-trial hearing in the case of David Martinez, accused of killing Pomona Police Officer Shaun Diamond in November. The Mongols are now claiming that throughout their attempt to defend the club in the long-running criminal case, their own leader was secretly talking to the government. #MONGOLSMC #LILDAVE #MONGOLSMOTORCYCLECLUBIs Lil Dave from the Mongols innocent?Full Interview American Cholo https://youtu.be/PzmaL8MliAI#LILDAVE#MONGOLSMC#. The explosive allegations come after a secretly recorded video surfaced of Santillan talking to his wife about the lead ATF agent on the case -- John Ciccone. Communications with Mr. Santillan, Mr. Ciccone said, were limited to such matters as ensuring public safety at Mongols events. It became clear that Dave had betrayed the club, his oath and everything we hold sacred, the club said in a statement. The. He said their communication was for public safety and showed the Mongols that there is ATF presence at their events. Mr. Santillan said he talked with the A.T.F. They are sick and tired of the gangster shit, they want to be bikers and be apart of a scene that was once true to itself (Thus the reason for pop up clubs and lack of respect for protocol and tradition). The indictment did not target any individuals but alleged that the club itself had engaged in an organized conspiracy of crimes such as murder, attempted murder and drug dealing. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF. **** IMPORTANT**** Check out the totally redesigned app!! Mr. Santillan holding a photo of himself with fellow Mongols members. He's accused of being a confidential informant and working with the government during the Mongols' trial after his wife,. Great conversation with the president of the Mongols. The big Mongol was the first to learn how much Jesse loved to fight, as the gear cut open a savage gash in the big man's face, eyebrow to chin. In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. He said they discussed matters such as public safety when the Mongols or other clubs were planning parties or motorcycle rallies to ensure that members stayed in line and that rival groups kept their distance. Michael Tyrone Delaney for The New York Times. Insane Throttle Support Club Become a memberNow, Insane Throttle/Motorcycle Madhouse Radio YouTube and AudioDisclaimer, Meet the Insane Throttle Contributing Columnist James Hollywood Macecari, Motorcycle Clubs Riding Clubs and Associations Near Me Index &Listings, Our Policies here at Insane Throttle Publications. During the almost 13 years he led the Mongols, Mr. Santillan appeared to steer the organization away from its past recruitment of Mexican criminal gang members and a culture of total underworld activity that the feds feasted on, in terms of prosecutions, said William Dulaney, an expert on motorcycle groups who was formerly an associate professor of national security at the U.S. Air Forces Air Command and Staff College. Mr. Ciccone, who retired last year, testified that Mr. Santillan never served as an informant for the agency, nor did he pass on any defense information during the trial. Mongols MC is a one percenter motorcycle club founded in Montebello, California on December 5, 1969. In one of them, according to their court papers, Mr. Santillan crashed his Mercedes in 2017 while driving impaired, damaging numerous cars parked on the street. Former Mongols President David Santillan continued to testify. I've heard out of his mouth personally a couple of years ago that they were trying to avoid any issues with any clubs and trying to stay quiet as not to bring attention to themselves because of the . Clubs used to represent more than territory, it was about freedom and doing what you wanted. 02:34 LIL Dave is all over the main stream, 04:10 Why did lil dave not want ciccone on the stand, 06:45 Our invitation for Ciccone to come on the show, 15:14 Mongol Lawyer thinks LIL DAVE WAS COMPROMISED AFRAID AND TURNED ON HIS CLUB. 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After Judge Carters ruling, he declared vindication in what he said was a contrived internal political witch hunt to smear my name and to get me dethroned.. Never in my life have I ever implicated anybody in the club for some kind of nefarious activity. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF.The explosive allegations come after a secretly recorded video surfaced of Santillan talking to his wife about the lead ATF agent on the case John Ciccone.Eyewitness News has obtained the video that was recorded in June of 2021 when David Santillan was drunk and despondent. The only thing he is guilty of is talking to John a lot and having some kind of rapport with him, she said in an interview. And he was tireless, Mr. DAlesio said. The A.T.F. U.S. News Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader Was an Informant Evelyn Blackwell June 5, 2022 7 minutes read For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. "It grew to become clear that Dave had betrayed the membership, his oath and all the pieces we maintain sacred," the membership stated in an announcement. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business. Mr. Santillan said it was ridiculous to think that Mr. Ciccone smoothed things over for him. The current national leaders of the Mongols said they were convinced that the clubs former president, who controlled the Mongols defense team, had acted improperly. In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. The group has about 1,200 members in the United States, most of them Hispanic, and numerous chapters around the world. The saying 99% and 1% is very true at this moment in time- Most bikers who are the 99% and majority can care less about motorcycle clubs anymore- Its fading and fading fast. The group has about 1,200 members in the United States, most of them Hispanic, and numerous chapters around the world. Mr. Dulaney said that Mr. Santillan instituted new policies, like no more club-driven drug business, and made it mandatory that members had to have a motorcycle and things like a valid drivers license and registration and a job.. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business. Former National Vice President of the T H U G Riders MC MOE CAPO MORALES. "I know we've had a rapport and I always looked out for you and you were always respectful. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide, For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery.In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. "I think they got David in compromising situations," Yanny tells Eyewitness News. Then the conversation, which she was. In their petition, the Mongols argue that Mr. Santillan could have been pressured to leak strategy and other information to the government as a result of lenient treatment the defense claimed he received during his brushes with the law. Testimony resumed for a hearing in which a judge will decided if the Mongols Motorcycle Club will get a new trial after being convicted of conspiracy and racketeering in 2018. In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. There's a new twist in a federal case already marked by murder and mayhem. The lawyer in charge of the retrial motion, Joseph A. Yanny, said the Mongols hoped to prove that an improper relationship between Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone during the 2018 trial allowed the government to hear things it should not have about the Mongols defense strategy and even adversely influenced the Mongols presentation of their case. Hes in a tough position right now because of the wife. ). SANTA ANA, Calif. After federal prosecutors won a landmark racketeering conviction against the Mongols motorcycle club, in an attempt to put an end to the outlaw groups long record of murder, attempted murder and drug dealing, the Mongols countered with an unusual claim: Their leader, they said, had been secretly helping the government in its efforts to bring down the organization. Marshal that Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone had been seen chatting at a Starbucks near the courthouse. Annie tells Eyewitness News that her husband was "spinning out of control" and continued to cheat on her after the phone call. In their petition, the Mongols argue that Mr. Santillan could have been pressured to leak strategy and other information to the government as a result of lenient treatment the defense claimed he received during his brushes with the law. Theres a new twist in a federal case already marked by murder and mayhem. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business.https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/us/mongols-new-trial.html, 00:00 Overview of the New York Times Article01:40 I know I said I wouldnt cover this anymore BUT03:56 Mongols MC Say LIL DAVE was an informant05:44 What the Mongols Rico Case was about07:30 Wheres the paperwork09:26 The explosive video11:50 How long was lil dave a member of the mongols13:47 Why wasnt it done all the time15:47 WOW he cant do this17:14 Usually he had other members with him19:10 The new policies21:44 The leaked strategy, Insane Throttle Support Club Become a memberNow, Insane Throttle/Motorcycle Madhouse Radio YouTube and AudioDisclaimer, Meet the Insane Throttle Contributing Columnist James Hollywood Macecari, Motorcycle Clubs Riding Clubs and Associations Near Me Index &Listings, Our Policies here at Insane Throttle Publications. Well let you guys have your fun, but keep your people in check, so to speak, he testified in June. The U.S. Attorneys Office had earlier tried and failed to force the Mongols to forfeit their rights to the clubs trademarked logo, a drawing of a brawny Genghis Khan-like figure riding a chopper while brandishing a sword, a landmark case that prosecutors felt would help weaken the club by undermining its visual identity. The government has filed a separate appeal on that issue, seeking a narrower forfeiture order that would take away the clubs right to trademark exclusivity over the logo. 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